{"id":31225,"date":"2025-09-01T03:00:34","date_gmt":"2025-09-01T01:00:34","guid":{"rendered":"5ee82212-4d9f-4333-9fab-7a52f51fd5a3"},"modified":"2025-09-03T22:40:12","modified_gmt":"2025-09-03T20:40:12","slug":"geo-kpis","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/en\/geo-kpis\/","title":{"rendered":"GEO &amp; LLMO KPIs: how Do You Measure your Success in AI Visibility?"},"content":{"rendered":"<section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small\" id=\"podcast\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Many companies want their products to be recommended in AI systems like ChatGPT, Copilot, and Gemini. Specifically, when their target audience searches for them. But how does one measure the work on such AI optimization, which is called GEO (<span>Generative Engine Optimization) <\/span>or LLMO (<span>Large Language Model Optimization)<\/span>? What are the specific goals?   <\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">We discuss this in this episode of our Content Performance Podcast. As always, we stand between two worlds: From our perspective, old SEO KPIs are becoming increasingly ineffective. At the same time, new fields of work are emerging \u2013 and the question arises as to which new GEO and LLMO KPIs one can apply to their work.  <\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_custom\" style=\"height:32px\"><\/div><div class=\"wpb_text_column inhaltsverzeichnis\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h3>Topics on this Page<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"#seo\">Old SEO KPIs no longer make sense<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#mention\">GEO \/ LLMO KPI: Brand Mention<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#industry\">GEO \/ LLMO KPI: Industry Ranking<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#klicks\">GEO \/ LLMO KPI: AI Clicks<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div 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This means: Regardless of your ranking position, there&#8217;s an AI answer before it. Users generally no longer need to click. From our perspective, tracking ranking positions and measuring success based on them will soon be a thing of the past. Currently, we are in an intermediate phase: For example, on transactional keywords, there are often no AI integrations. Here, for instance, ranking monitoring still makes more sense. Similarly, video integration, recipes, or news, which generate a lot of traffic.      <\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-4 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-iconbox iconpos_top style_default color_primary align_center\"><div class=\"w-iconbox-icon\" style=\"font-size:2rem;\"><i class=\"fas fa-thumbs-down\"><\/i><\/div><div class=\"w-iconbox-meta\"><h4 class=\"w-iconbox-title\">Clicks<\/h4><div class=\"w-iconbox-text\"><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Here too, we are in an intermediate phase: For all our clients, and for ourselves, Google remains the largest traffic channel. However, across numerous industries and projects, we are seeing a decline in clicks. Here too, AI Overviews are again the central reason. As soon as Google rolls out <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/google-ai-mode\/\">AI Mode<\/a> in Germany, clicks will further decrease. Companies must now ask themselves how they want to be visible in the future \u2013 through <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/vorgestellt-unser-framework-fuer-reichweite-relevanz-und-leads\/\">new frameworks<\/a> or through <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/en\/hub\/geo-and-llmo\/\">visibility in AI systems (GEO \/ LLMO)<\/a>.    <\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-4 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-iconbox iconpos_top style_default color_primary align_center\"><div class=\"w-iconbox-icon\" style=\"font-size:2rem;\"><i class=\"fas fa-thumbs-down\"><\/i><\/div><div class=\"w-iconbox-meta\"><h4 class=\"w-iconbox-title\">Impressions<\/h4><div class=\"w-iconbox-text\"><p style=\"text-align: left;\">In the SEO industry, there is also discussion about moving to impressions as a new metric or KPI. That is, a simple display in the search results, which is reported in Google Search Console. We doubt that this will prevail. Google search results are completely overloaded with ads, integrations, and AI answers. Publishers, comparison sites, and brands are teeming in the organic results. A placement anywhere on this surface has an extremely low advertising impact.     <\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small\" id=\"mention\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">GEO \/ LLMO KPI: Brand Mention<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p style=\"text-align: left;\">When and how are brands or specific products actively recommended in ChatGPT? From our perspective, this is the decisive metric. Such an AI recommendation is extremely valuable: The AI system typically actively presents a maximum of 5 products \u2013 and also evaluates these products. It is therefore an individual buying guide. Completely ad-free and without other distracting elements.    <\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">To monitor brand mentions, the right prompt methodology is crucial. Here, we work partly with our own tools that we develop and with new <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/ai-visibility-wie-koennen-unternehmen-ihre-ki-sichtbarkeit-monitoren\/\">GEO Monitoring Tools<\/a> that are coming onto the market. <\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">To be clear: There is no valid data basis for prompts. Even three years after the launch of ChatGPT, it is completely unknown how users utilize these systems (see <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/posts\/fabianjaeckert_prompt-geo-activity-7363532272882311169-G4Tg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Fabian Jaeckert&#8217;s LinkedIn Post on Prompts and GEO Analyses<\/a>). However, even without prompt data, we are not flying blind. From our perspective, it&#8217;s about recognizing fundamental patterns in an AI customer journey \u2013 and continuing to work on them.   <\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-html\"> <div class=\"brlbs-cmpnt-container brlbs-cmpnt-content-blocker brlbs-cmpnt-with-individual-styles\" data-borlabs-cookie-content-blocker-id=\"default\" data-borlabs-cookie-content=\"PGlmcmFtZSB3aWR0aD0iNTYwIiBoZWlnaHQ9IjMxNSIgc3JjPSJodHRwczovL3d3dy55b3V0dWJlLmNvbS9lbWJlZC9Hamo2Z2xvN2RLVT9zaT1QT09sNDdKelo4U195QXlDIiB0aXRsZT0iWW91VHViZSB2aWRlbyBwbGF5ZXIiIGZyYW1lYm9yZGVyPSIwIiBhbGxvdz0iYWNjZWxlcm9tZXRlcjsgYXV0b3BsYXk7IGNsaXBib2FyZC13cml0ZTsgZW5jcnlwdGVkLW1lZGlhOyBneXJvc2NvcGU7IHBpY3R1cmUtaW4tcGljdHVyZTsgd2ViLXNoYXJlIiByZWZlcnJlcnBvbGljeT0ic3RyaWN0LW9yaWdpbi13aGVuLWNyb3NzLW9yaWdpbiIgYWxsb3dmdWxsc2NyZWVuPSIiPjwvaWZyYW1lPg==\"><div class=\"brlbs-cmpnt-cb-preset-a\"> <p class=\"brlbs-cmpnt-cb-description\">You are currently viewing a placeholder content from <strong>Default<\/strong>. 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Please note that doing so will share data with third-party providers.<\/p> <div class=\"brlbs-cmpnt-cb-buttons\"> <a class=\"brlbs-cmpnt-cb-btn\" href=\"#\" data-borlabs-cookie-unblock role=\"button\">Unblock content<\/a> <a class=\"brlbs-cmpnt-cb-btn\" href=\"#\" data-borlabs-cookie-accept-service role=\"button\" style=\"display: none\">Accept required service and unblock content<\/a> <\/div> <a class=\"brlbs-cmpnt-cb-provider-toggle\" href=\"#\" data-borlabs-cookie-show-provider-information role=\"button\">More Information<\/a> <\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p style=\"text-align: center;\">Video: Prompt Methodology for Brand Mention Analysis<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small color_alternate\" id=\"industry\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">GEO \/ LLMO KPI: Industry Ranking<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p style=\"text-align: left;\">From such <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/brand-monitoring-in-chatgpt-gemini-und-co-welche-prompts-ueberwachst-du\/\">GEO Brand Monitoring<\/a>, a robust &#8220;Industry Ranking&#8221; emerges. A clear <strong>competitive comparison<\/strong>. Here, the brands that are displayed and recommended based on the monitored prompts are shown. From this, we can define goals from our perspective. If, for example, a brand is not recommended even once in the prompt set or is in the lower ranks, we can draw conclusions and develop measures to improve the Industry Ranking.    <\/p>\n<p>The GEO Monitoring Tools are still in the midst of development here. This can be seen, for example, in the &#8220;Sentiment&#8221;. AI systems evaluate products daily in their responses. In the software world, this looks like: &#8220;intuitive, comprehensive, practical&#8221; or &#8220;cumbersome, elaborate, complex&#8221;.   <\/p>\n<p>The brand mention, or mere mention, alone is not enough. It must also be positive. Otherwise, one might fail to impress the user \u2013 before they even visit the website for the first time. The new tools only show the sentiment on average.   <\/p>\n<p>Here, one can soon delve deeper in the future: Which positive and negative aspects appear how often? Are they general evaluations or is it criticism of specific functions? What are the bases for evaluation that AI systems rely on?<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-image style_shadow-1 align_none\"><a ref=\"magnificPopup\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-LLLMO-Industry-Ranking.png\" aria-label=\"Industry Ranking GEO LLMO KPI\" class=\"w-image-h\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1080\" height=\"1080\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-LLLMO-Industry-Ranking.png\" class=\"attachment-large size-large\" alt=\"Industry Ranking GEO LLMO KPI\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-LLLMO-Industry-Ranking.png 1080w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-LLLMO-Industry-Ranking-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-LLLMO-Industry-Ranking-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-LLLMO-Industry-Ranking-800x800.png 800w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-LLLMO-Industry-Ranking-600x600.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"w-btn-wrapper align_center\"><a class=\"w-btn us-btn-style_1\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/en\/seo-academy\/\"><span class=\"w-btn-label\">Our GEO \/ LLMO Academy<\/span><\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small\" id=\"klicks\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">GEO \/ LLMO KPI: Clicks from AI Systems<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Clicks from AI systems should also be monitored and evaluated. However, it should be clear here: Significantly fewer clicks are generated than with Google. The example here comes from our own web analysis. ChatGPT is ranked 12th as a source for us.   <\/p>\n<p>However, ChatGPT only has around 40 million active users in the EU (<a href=\"https:\/\/help.openai.com\/en\/articles\/8959649-eu-digital-services-act-dsa\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Source<\/a>, number in the penultimate paragraph), which is a market penetration of around 10 percent. But even with 100 percent market penetration, we would only reach around 1,800 clicks \u2013 far from what Google brings us (here is an overview of our traffic sources, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/posts\/benjamin-o-daniel_webanalyse-content-strategie-activity-7351498220293742592-N2zo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">LinkedIn post by Benjamin O&#8217;Daniel<\/a>). <\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, these clicks are very valuable. One can assume that users have a large part of their customer journey within ChatGPT and other systems \u2013 and then visit a website as part of their purchasing decision. <\/p>\n<p>Ultimately, however, this is just another &#8220;status quo&#8221;. In the future, it is also possible that purchases will occur via AI agents, and users will no longer need to visit a website themselves for this purpose. Then the KPI would be &#8220;AI Agentic Clicks&#8221;.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-image style_shadow-1 align_none\"><a ref=\"magnificPopup\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-LLMO-KPI-Chatgpt-Llicks.png\" aria-label=\"GEO-LLMO-KPI-Chatgpt-Llicks\" class=\"w-image-h\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1080\" height=\"1080\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-LLMO-KPI-Chatgpt-Llicks.png\" class=\"attachment-large size-large\" alt=\"GEO LLMO KPI Klicks aus ChatGPT\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-LLMO-KPI-Chatgpt-Llicks.png 1080w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-LLMO-KPI-Chatgpt-Llicks-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-LLMO-KPI-Chatgpt-Llicks-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-LLMO-KPI-Chatgpt-Llicks-800x800.png 800w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-LLMO-KPI-Chatgpt-Llicks-600x600.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"w-btn-wrapper align_center\"><a class=\"w-btn us-btn-style_1\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/en\/hub\/geo-and-llmo\/\"><span class=\"w-btn-label\">GEO \/ LLMO Overview<\/span><\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small color_alternate\" id=\"newsletter\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-separator size_custom\" style=\"height:32px\"><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Deepen your GEO Knowledge: Every Monday via Email<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_custom\" style=\"height:32px\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p style=\"text-align: center;\"><div id=\"custom_html-3\" class=\"widget_text widget widget_custom_html amr_widget\"><div class=\"textwidget custom-html-widget\"><div style=\"text-align: center; 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As an in-house SEO expert, I sought competent SEO support and found it with them. During a very pleasant introductory meeting, we jointly developed an approach to establish SEO among the individual stakeholders and thereby gain more internal visibility for the subject. Based on this initial discussion and a joint kick-off with the stakeholders, they developed a sound SEO and content strategy for a product area. Since then, they have both supported me as sparring partners during implementation.<\/p>\n<p>The collaboration with Fabian and Benjamin is a great pleasure for me and all project participants, as they are masters of their craft and bring immense passion for SEO. This combination is infectious and motivates everyone to achieve peak performance.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"w-hwrapper usg_hwrapper_1 align_none valign_middle\" style=\"--hwrapper-gap: 1.2rem;\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_image usg_post_image_1 as_circle has_width stretched\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dkb.de\/\" aria-label=\"Regina Biskop, Deutsche Kreditbank AG\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3-800x800.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"w-vwrapper usg_vwrapper_2 align_none valign_top\" style=\"--vwrapper-gap: 0.7rem; --vwrapper-parent-gap: 0.7rem;\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_custom_field usg_post_custom_field_1 type_text us_testimonial_author\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dkb.de\/\" rel=\"noopener\"><span class=\"w-post-elm-value\">Regina Biskop<\/span><\/a><\/div><div class=\"w-post-elm post_custom_field usg_post_custom_field_2 has_text_color type_text us_testimonial_role color_link_inherit\"><span class=\"w-post-elm-value\">Search Engine Optimization Expert, Deutsche Kreditbank AG<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<\/article>\r\n<\/div>\t<div class=\"w-grid-preloader\">\r\n\t\t<div class=\"g-preloader type_1\">\r\n\t\t\t<div><\/div>\r\n\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t<div class=\"w-grid-json hidden\" onclick='return {&quot;action&quot;:&quot;us_ajax_grid&quot;,&quot;infinite_scroll&quot;:0,&quot;max_num_pages&quot;:1,&quot;pagination&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;template_vars&quot;:{&quot;columns&quot;:&quot;1&quot;,&quot;exclude_items&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;img_size&quot;:&quot;default&quot;,&quot;ignore_items_size&quot;:0,&quot;items_layout&quot;:&quot;testimonial_1&quot;,&quot;items_offset&quot;:&quot;1&quot;,&quot;load_animation&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;overriding_link&quot;:&quot;%7B%22url%22%3A%22%22%7D&quot;,&quot;post_id&quot;:0,&quot;query_args&quot;:{&quot;post_type&quot;:[&quot;us_testimonial&quot;],&quot;tax_query&quot;:[{&quot;taxonomy&quot;:&quot;us_testimonial_category&quot;,&quot;field&quot;:&quot;slug&quot;,&quot;terms&quot;:[&quot;dkb&quot;]}],&quot;post_status&quot;:[&quot;publish&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-success&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-failed&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-schedule&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-pending&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-draft&quot;],&quot;posts_per_page&quot;:&quot;1&quot;},&quot;orderby_query_args&quot;:{&quot;orderby&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;DESC&quot;}},&quot;type&quot;:&quot;grid&quot;,&quot;us_grid_post_type&quot;:&quot;us_testimonial&quot;,&quot;us_grid_ajax_index&quot;:1,&quot;us_grid_filter_query_string&quot;:null,&quot;us_grid_index&quot;:1,&quot;page_args&quot;:[],&quot;lang&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}}'><\/div>\r\n\t<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-grid us_grid type_grid layout_testimonial_1 cols_1 preload_style_spinner\" id=\"us_grid_2\" style=\"--columns:1;--gap:1.5rem;\" data-filterable=\"true\"><div class=\"w-grid-list\">\t<article class=\"w-grid-item size_1x1 post-30806 us_testimonial type-us_testimonial status-publish has-post-thumbnail hentry us_testimonial_category-bierbaum us_testimonial_category-clients\" data-id=\"30806\">\r\n\t\t<div class=\"w-grid-item-h\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"w-vwrapper usg_vwrapper_1 align_none valign_top\" style=\"--vwrapper-gap: 0.7rem;\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_content usg_post_content_1\"><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p>I look back with great satisfaction on the SEO project that we carried out with Benjamin and Fabian. Firstly, the collaboration was on a very pleasant, goal-oriented level. Secondly, the consultation was structured in such a way that we could immediately start with the implementation. We received very concrete optimization suggestions that were tailored to our internal capacities and therefore realistically implementable. Even though only a few months have passed, we can already see the first results of our work in the Google rankings. Traffic for our relevant keywords is steadily increasing, and we still have enough concrete work packages from Benjamin in the pipeline to boost our site. Furthermore, through the consultation, we have acquired so much internal SEO know-how that we can now optimize our site independently. And most importantly: Visitor numbers have doubled \u2013 with correspondingly positive effects on sales.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section>\n<\/div><div class=\"w-hwrapper usg_hwrapper_1 align_none valign_middle\" style=\"--hwrapper-gap: 1.2rem;\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_image usg_post_image_1 as_circle has_width stretched\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bp-online.com\/de-de\/\" aria-label=\"Mark Mauderer, Digital Marketing Manager, Bierbaum Proenen\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/mark_m-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/mark_m-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/mark_m-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/mark_m-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/mark_m.jpg 686w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"w-vwrapper usg_vwrapper_2 align_none valign_top\" style=\"--vwrapper-gap: 0.7rem; --vwrapper-parent-gap: 0.7rem;\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_custom_field usg_post_custom_field_1 type_text us_testimonial_author\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bp-online.com\/de-de\/\" rel=\"noopener\"><span class=\"w-post-elm-value\">Mark Mauderer<\/span><\/a><\/div><div class=\"w-post-elm post_custom_field usg_post_custom_field_2 has_text_color type_text us_testimonial_role color_link_inherit\"><span class=\"w-post-elm-value\">Digital Marketing Manager, Bierbaum Proenen <\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<\/article>\r\n<\/div>\t<div class=\"w-grid-preloader\">\r\n\t\t<div class=\"g-preloader type_1\">\r\n\t\t\t<div><\/div>\r\n\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t<div class=\"w-grid-json hidden\" onclick='return {&quot;action&quot;:&quot;us_ajax_grid&quot;,&quot;infinite_scroll&quot;:0,&quot;max_num_pages&quot;:1,&quot;pagination&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;template_vars&quot;:{&quot;columns&quot;:&quot;1&quot;,&quot;exclude_items&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;img_size&quot;:&quot;default&quot;,&quot;ignore_items_size&quot;:0,&quot;items_layout&quot;:&quot;testimonial_1&quot;,&quot;items_offset&quot;:&quot;1&quot;,&quot;load_animation&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;overriding_link&quot;:&quot;%7B%22url%22%3A%22%22%7D&quot;,&quot;post_id&quot;:0,&quot;query_args&quot;:{&quot;post_type&quot;:[&quot;us_testimonial&quot;],&quot;tax_query&quot;:[{&quot;taxonomy&quot;:&quot;us_testimonial_category&quot;,&quot;field&quot;:&quot;slug&quot;,&quot;terms&quot;:[&quot;bierbaum&quot;]}],&quot;post_status&quot;:[&quot;publish&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-success&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-failed&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-schedule&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-pending&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-draft&quot;],&quot;posts_per_page&quot;:&quot;1&quot;},&quot;orderby_query_args&quot;:{&quot;orderby&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;DESC&quot;}},&quot;type&quot;:&quot;grid&quot;,&quot;us_grid_post_type&quot;:&quot;us_testimonial&quot;,&quot;us_grid_ajax_index&quot;:2,&quot;us_grid_filter_query_string&quot;:null,&quot;us_grid_index&quot;:2,&quot;page_args&quot;:[],&quot;lang&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}}'><\/div>\r\n\t<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small color_alternate\" id=\"interviews\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Our Conversations with SEO and GEO Professionals from the Industry<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div 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class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"w-grid us_grid type_grid layout_blog_10 cols_2 preload_style_spinner overflow_hidden\" id=\"us_grid_4\" style=\"--columns:2;--gap:1.5rem;\"><style>@media (max-width:600px){#us_grid_4{--columns:1!important}}<\/style><div class=\"w-grid-list\">\t<article class=\"w-grid-item size_1x1 post-31244 podcast type-podcast status-publish has-post-thumbnail hentry category-magazine tag-interviews tag-seo-strategy post\" data-id=\"31244\">\r\n\t\t<div class=\"w-grid-item-h\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"w-post-elm post_image usg_post_image_1 stretched\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/en\/the-seo-success-of-mediamarktsaturn-interview-with-tamara-heinz\/\" aria-label=\"The SEO Success of MediamarktSaturn: Interview with Tamara Heinz\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1080\" height=\"1080\" 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AI<\/a><\/h2><\/div>\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<\/article>\r\n<\/div>\t<div class=\"w-grid-preloader\">\r\n\t\t<div class=\"g-preloader type_1\">\r\n\t\t\t<div><\/div>\r\n\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t<div class=\"w-grid-json hidden\" onclick='return 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class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small\" id=\"related\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Also in these Episodes, We Discuss GEO, LLMO \u2013 and how SEO is Changing<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_custom\" style=\"height:32px\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><table>\n    <tbody>\n            <tr class=\"podcast_archive_element\">\n            <td class=\"thumbnail\">\n                \n<img decoding=\"async\" width=\"64\" height=\"64\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/cache\/podlove\/75\/e633ac9a0ca295eb37424f6da1206c\/what-ai-crawlers-really-read-study-interview-with-julio-c-guevara_64x64.png\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/cache\/podlove\/75\/e633ac9a0ca295eb37424f6da1206c\/what-ai-crawlers-really-read-study-interview-with-julio-c-guevara_64x64.png 1x, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/cache\/podlove\/75\/e633ac9a0ca295eb37424f6da1206c\/what-ai-crawlers-really-read-study-interview-with-julio-c-guevara_128x.png 2x, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/cache\/podlove\/75\/e633ac9a0ca295eb37424f6da1206c\/what-ai-crawlers-really-read-study-interview-with-julio-c-guevara_192x.png 3x\"\/>\n\n            <\/td>\n            <td class=\"title\">\n      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