{"id":31711,"date":"2025-09-22T03:00:42","date_gmt":"2025-09-22T01:00:42","guid":{"rendered":"cc66c213-7333-44d8-8449-61fda2e5a783"},"modified":"2025-10-20T10:53:23","modified_gmt":"2025-10-20T08:53:23","slug":"why-seo-is-a-part-of-geo-and-not-the-other-way-around","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/en\/why-seo-is-a-part-of-geo-and-not-the-other-way-around\/","title":{"rendered":"Why SEO is a Part of GEO &#8211; and not the other Way Around"},"content":{"rendered":"<section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small\" id=\"podcast\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p>In the SEO world, we observe an interesting pattern: optimization for AI systems is considered a sub-discipline of SEO.<\/p>\n<p>According to the motto: Let&#8217;s keep doing this for a bit.<\/p>\n<p>This view is based on three central arguments &#8211; which we criticize in this article. From our point of view, the extent of the change is greatly underestimated here. A little adjustment is not enough.  <\/p>\n<p>In the future, everything will revolve around visibility and relevance in AI systems. The &#8220;old Google&#8221; plays an important, but subordinate role.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_custom\" style=\"height:32px\"><\/div><div class=\"wpb_text_column inhaltsverzeichnis\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h3>Topics on this Page<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"#relevanz\">1. Argument: &#8220;AI systems play only a minor role&#8221;<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#massnahmen\">2. Argument: &#8220;Those who do SEO automatically do GEO as well&#8221;<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#messbarkeit\">3. Argument: &#8220;SEO is measurable, AI optimization is not&#8221;<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#studie\"><strong>Current Study<\/strong> on ChatGPT Usage<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\">\n            <div class=\"podlove-web-player intrinsic-ignore podlove-web-player-loading\" id=\"player-6a6ffc5742a1e\"><root data-test=\"player--xl\" style=\"max-width:950px;min-width:260px;\">\n  <div class=\"tablet:px-6 tablet:pt-6 mobile:px-4 mobile:pt-4 flex flex-col\">\n    <div class=\"flex-col items-center mobile:flex tablet:hidden\">\n      <show-title 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Argument: &#8220;AI systems play only a subordinate role&#8221;<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p>Recently, a number of studies have been published emphasizing that AI systems play only a subordinate role compared to Google. For example, the Cloudflare study (discussed <a href=\"https:\/\/seo-suedwest.de\/9936-aktuelle-zahlen-google-mit-89-prozent-marktanteil-weltweit-openai-bei-0-23-prozent.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a> by colleague Christian Kunz from SEO S\u00fcdwest). However, the crucial factor is the comparison metric: traffic share is used every time. That is, from which sources clicks on websites originate.   <\/p>\n<p>However, this perspective has several drawbacks:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Incorrect Metric<\/strong>: In AI systems, users generally no longer need to click. They receive their answers directly in the AI chat. Therefore, AI systems will consistently generate less traffic.  <\/li>\n<li><strong>Unknown usage<\/strong>: ChatGPT (and other AI systems) has been in the top spot in the download charts of the app stores for months. What takes place in this app is not measured.<\/li>\n<li><strong>Google is also changing<\/strong>: Google is also transforming into an AI system. Be it via the AI Mode, which has already been rolled out worldwide. Or via its own AI app, Gemini.  <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>It is completely clear that the use of AI systems is still comparatively in its early stages. But it is a completely distorted view if you look at the pure traffic figures of today &#8211; and base your future strategy on them.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-image align_none\"><div class=\"w-image-h\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1140\" height=\"1140\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Gemini-App-Links-und-Downloads-2025.png\" class=\"attachment-large size-large\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Gemini-App-Links-und-Downloads-2025.png 1485w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Gemini-App-Links-und-Downloads-2025-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Gemini-App-Links-und-Downloads-2025-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Gemini-App-Links-und-Downloads-2025-1200x1200.png 1200w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Gemini-App-Links-und-Downloads-2025-800x800.png 800w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Gemini-App-Links-und-Downloads-2025-600x600.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1140px) 100vw, 1140px\" \/><\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"w-btn-wrapper align_center\"><a class=\"w-btn us-btn-style_1\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/en\/seo-academy\/\"><span class=\"w-btn-label\">GEO Academy<\/span><\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small\" id=\"massnahmen\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">2. Argument: &#8220;Those who do SEO automatically do GEO as well&#8221;<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p>How to optimize for visibility and relevance in AI systems \u2013 the industry is still in its infancy here. Recommended measures include, for example, the &#8220;GEO optimization&#8221; of content. This involves focusing on understandable language, short paragraphs, and keywords \u2013 precisely the same measures as in SEO. One argument for this is: those who rank high in Google are more frequently cited as a source.   <\/p>\n<p>This argumentation also has several weaknesses:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>AI Functionality<\/strong>: AI systems can inherently &#8220;understand&#8221; and structure complex texts. They do not require &#8220;bite-sized&#8221; texts for this. <\/li>\n<li><strong>Search as a Sub-Function<\/strong>: The search function in AI systems is a subordinate function. Therefore, SEO is a part of GEO. <\/li>\n<li><strong>Grounding Process<\/strong>: Sometimes the AI activates grounding, i.e., searching within the framework of AI answer generation. However, a series of search queries are then made, evaluated, and further processed. The process is significantly more complex. The old formula &#8220;Top Ranking = Traffic&#8221; is only partially applicable.   <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>More on this in our article: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/geo-texte\/\">GEO Texts are Not SEO Texts<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-image align_none\"><div class=\"w-image-h\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1140\" height=\"1140\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Antwort-Beispiel-GEO-1.png\" class=\"attachment-large size-large\" alt=\"ChatGPT Response Example\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Antwort-Beispiel-GEO-1.png 1485w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Antwort-Beispiel-GEO-1-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Antwort-Beispiel-GEO-1-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Antwort-Beispiel-GEO-1-1200x1200.png 1200w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Antwort-Beispiel-GEO-1-800x800.png 800w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Antwort-Beispiel-GEO-1-600x600.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1140px) 100vw, 1140px\" \/><\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"w-btn-wrapper align_center\"><a class=\"w-btn us-btn-style_1\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/en\/geo-llmo-consulting\/\"><span class=\"w-btn-label\">AI Visibility Consulting<\/span><\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small color_primary\" id=\"onlinetraining\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-8 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h2>Free GEO Online Training<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>From SEO to GEO<\/li>\n<li>How to Optimize for AI Systems<\/li>\n<li>Open question round<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_small\"><\/div><div class=\"w-btn-wrapper align_left\"><a class=\"w-btn us-btn-style_5\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/us02web.zoom.us\/webinar\/register\/3017566478603\/WN_-huWVuUyQWGuya0yM5GKUQ\" rel=\"noopener\"><span class=\"w-btn-label\">Select Appointment Now<\/span><\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-4 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-image us_custom_bc410951 align_none\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/seo-training-anmeldung-ws\/\" aria-label=\"GEO Online Training Header (1001 x 667 px)\" class=\"w-image-h\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1001\" height=\"667\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/GEO-Online-Training-Header-1001-x-667-px.png\" class=\"attachment-large size-large\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/GEO-Online-Training-Header-1001-x-667-px.png 1001w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/GEO-Online-Training-Header-1001-x-667-px-300x200.png 300w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/GEO-Online-Training-Header-1001-x-667-px-150x100.png 150w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/GEO-Online-Training-Header-1001-x-667-px-800x533.png 800w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/GEO-Online-Training-Header-1001-x-667-px-600x400.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1001px) 100vw, 1001px\" \/><\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small color_alternate\" id=\"messbarkeit\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">3. Argument: &#8220;SEO is measurable. AI optimization is not&#8221; <\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p>It is emphasized that in SEO, rankings and traffic are measurable. In contrast, in AI systems, the answers are different each time. There is nothing to adhere to in an analysis. Here, too, several counterarguments can be found:   <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Rankings become worthless<\/strong>: Since the introduction of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/ai-overviews-2025\/\">AI Overviews<\/a>, it is clear: even those ranking first suffer significant traffic losses. Many users are satisfied with AI summaries and click significantly less often. Rankings already convey little meaning.  <\/li>\n<li><strong>Empty Keywords, Dark Keywords<\/strong>: In practice, it is repeatedly observed: some keywords supposedly have very high search volume \u2013 but deliver hardly any traffic. The reasons for this are manifold: Google Ads, Google integrations, bot traffic. Conversely, in the long-tail sector, 75% of keywords are not visible (<g id=\"gid_1\">Dark Keywords<\/g>). Many aspects in SEO have long ceased to be so clear.   <\/li>\n<li><strong>AI Visibility Analytics<\/strong>: Even if AI systems do not always provide the exact same answer: those who measure their prompts over a longer period receive comparable answers and stable industry rankings. Learn more about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/geo-kpis\/\">KPIs in GEO &amp; LLMO<\/a> here. <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-image align_none\"><div class=\"w-image-h\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1140\" height=\"1140\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-Strategie-1.png\" class=\"attachment-large size-large\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-Strategie-1.png 1485w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-Strategie-1-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-Strategie-1-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-Strategie-1-1200x1200.png 1200w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-Strategie-1-800x800.png 800w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/GEO-Strategie-1-600x600.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1140px) 100vw, 1140px\" \/><\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"w-btn-wrapper align_center\"><a class=\"w-btn us-btn-style_1\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/en\/hub\/geo-and-llmo\/\"><span class=\"w-btn-label\">AI Visibility &#8211; The Overview<\/span><\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small\" id=\"studie\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Current Study: ChatGPT is Increasingly Used for Search<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p>OpenAI&#8217;s Research Team, in collaboration with a Harvard economist and the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), has produced a study. For this purpose, 1.5 million prompts were anonymously evaluated. It is the first study to deeply demonstrate how ChatGPT is being used.  <\/p>\n<p>Three Key Findings:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Private Use:<\/strong> Private use is steadily increasing. The share of non-work-related messages has risen from 53% (June 2024) to 73% (June 2025). <\/li>\n<li><strong>Usage like a search engine:<\/strong> In private use, &#8220;Practical Guidance&#8221; and &#8220;Information Seeking&#8221; account for 53 percent of usage (page 15). Both are typical activities that one would otherwise have carried out via Google. <\/li>\n<li><strong>Search is increasing:<\/strong> &#8220;Information Seeking&#8221; is growing &#8211; from 18 percent to 24.4 percent in one year. Searching for products is a part of this (&#8220;Purchasable Products&#8221;). Many integrations such as the shopping feed have only been around for a short time.  <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>In particular, highly educated people use ChatGPT for search and decision-making. ChatGPT provides them with tailored answers and new ideas. The information for this comes from the language model and the integrated search (&#8220;Grounding&#8221;).  <\/p>\n<p>According to the study, around 10 percent of the world&#8217;s population already uses ChatGPT. It must be added that ChatGPT is only one AI system of many. Other AI systems are also on the rise. <\/p>\n<p>Click here for the study (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.nber.org\/system\/files\/working_papers\/w34255\/w34255.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">PDF document<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/openai.com\/index\/how-people-are-using-chatgpt\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">press release from OpenAI<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-image align_none\"><div class=\"w-image-h\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1140\" height=\"1140\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Studie-2.png\" class=\"attachment-large size-large\" alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Studie-2.png 1485w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Studie-2-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Studie-2-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Studie-2-1200x1200.png 1200w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Studie-2-800x800.png 800w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Studie-2-600x600.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1140px) 100vw, 1140px\" \/><\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"w-btn-wrapper align_center\"><a class=\"w-btn us-btn-style_1\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/en\/hub\/geo-and-llmo\/\"><span class=\"w-btn-label\">AI Visibility &#8211; 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As an in-house SEO expert, I sought competent SEO support and found it with them. During a very pleasant introductory meeting, we jointly developed an approach to establish SEO among the individual stakeholders and thereby gain more internal visibility for the subject. Based on this initial discussion and a joint kick-off with the stakeholders, they developed a sound SEO and content strategy for a product area. Since then, they have both supported me as sparring partners during implementation.<\/p>\n<p>The collaboration with Fabian and Benjamin is a great pleasure for me and all project participants, as they are masters of their craft and bring immense passion for SEO. This combination is infectious and motivates everyone to achieve peak performance.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"w-hwrapper usg_hwrapper_1 align_none valign_middle\" style=\"--hwrapper-gap: 1.2rem;\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_image usg_post_image_1 as_circle has_width stretched\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dkb.de\/\" aria-label=\"Regina Biskop, Deutsche Kreditbank AG\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3-800x800.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"w-vwrapper usg_vwrapper_2 align_none valign_top\" style=\"--vwrapper-gap: 0.7rem; --vwrapper-parent-gap: 0.7rem;\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_custom_field usg_post_custom_field_1 type_text us_testimonial_author\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dkb.de\/\" rel=\"noopener\"><span class=\"w-post-elm-value\">Regina Biskop<\/span><\/a><\/div><div class=\"w-post-elm post_custom_field usg_post_custom_field_2 has_text_color type_text us_testimonial_role color_link_inherit\"><span class=\"w-post-elm-value\">Search Engine Optimization Expert, Deutsche Kreditbank AG<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<\/article>\r\n<\/div>\t<div class=\"w-grid-preloader\">\r\n\t\t<div class=\"g-preloader type_1\">\r\n\t\t\t<div><\/div>\r\n\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t<div class=\"w-grid-json hidden\" onclick='return {&quot;action&quot;:&quot;us_ajax_grid&quot;,&quot;infinite_scroll&quot;:0,&quot;max_num_pages&quot;:1,&quot;pagination&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;template_vars&quot;:{&quot;columns&quot;:&quot;1&quot;,&quot;exclude_items&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;img_size&quot;:&quot;default&quot;,&quot;ignore_items_size&quot;:0,&quot;items_layout&quot;:&quot;testimonial_1&quot;,&quot;items_offset&quot;:&quot;1&quot;,&quot;load_animation&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;overriding_link&quot;:&quot;%7B%22url%22%3A%22%22%7D&quot;,&quot;post_id&quot;:0,&quot;query_args&quot;:{&quot;post_type&quot;:[&quot;us_testimonial&quot;],&quot;tax_query&quot;:[{&quot;taxonomy&quot;:&quot;us_testimonial_category&quot;,&quot;field&quot;:&quot;slug&quot;,&quot;terms&quot;:[&quot;dkb&quot;]}],&quot;post_status&quot;:[&quot;publish&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-success&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-failed&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-schedule&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-pending&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-draft&quot;],&quot;posts_per_page&quot;:&quot;1&quot;},&quot;orderby_query_args&quot;:{&quot;orderby&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;DESC&quot;}},&quot;type&quot;:&quot;grid&quot;,&quot;us_grid_post_type&quot;:&quot;us_testimonial&quot;,&quot;us_grid_ajax_index&quot;:1,&quot;us_grid_filter_query_string&quot;:null,&quot;us_grid_index&quot;:1,&quot;page_args&quot;:[],&quot;lang&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}}'><\/div>\r\n\t<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-grid us_grid type_grid layout_testimonial_1 cols_1 preload_style_spinner\" id=\"us_grid_2\" style=\"--columns:1;--gap:1.5rem;\" data-filterable=\"true\"><div class=\"w-grid-list\">\t<article class=\"w-grid-item size_1x1 post-30806 us_testimonial type-us_testimonial status-publish has-post-thumbnail hentry us_testimonial_category-bierbaum us_testimonial_category-clients\" data-id=\"30806\">\r\n\t\t<div class=\"w-grid-item-h\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"w-vwrapper usg_vwrapper_1 align_none valign_top\" style=\"--vwrapper-gap: 0.7rem;\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_content usg_post_content_1\"><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p>I look back with great satisfaction on the SEO project that we carried out with Benjamin and Fabian. Firstly, the collaboration was on a very pleasant, goal-oriented level. Secondly, the consultation was structured in such a way that we could immediately start with the implementation. We received very concrete optimization suggestions that were tailored to our internal capacities and therefore realistically implementable. Even though only a few months have passed, we can already see the first results of our work in the Google rankings. Traffic for our relevant keywords is steadily increasing, and we still have enough concrete work packages from Benjamin in the pipeline to boost our site. Furthermore, through the consultation, we have acquired so much internal SEO know-how that we can now optimize our site independently. And most importantly: Visitor numbers have doubled \u2013 with correspondingly positive effects on sales.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section>\n<\/div><div class=\"w-hwrapper usg_hwrapper_1 align_none valign_middle\" style=\"--hwrapper-gap: 1.2rem;\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_image usg_post_image_1 as_circle has_width stretched\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bp-online.com\/de-de\/\" aria-label=\"Mark Mauderer, Digital Marketing Manager, Bierbaum Proenen\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/mark_m-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/mark_m-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/mark_m-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/mark_m-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/mark_m.jpg 686w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"w-vwrapper usg_vwrapper_2 align_none valign_top\" style=\"--vwrapper-gap: 0.7rem; --vwrapper-parent-gap: 0.7rem;\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_custom_field usg_post_custom_field_1 type_text us_testimonial_author\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bp-online.com\/de-de\/\" rel=\"noopener\"><span class=\"w-post-elm-value\">Mark Mauderer<\/span><\/a><\/div><div class=\"w-post-elm post_custom_field usg_post_custom_field_2 has_text_color type_text us_testimonial_role color_link_inherit\"><span class=\"w-post-elm-value\">Digital Marketing Manager, Bierbaum Proenen <\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<\/article>\r\n<\/div>\t<div class=\"w-grid-preloader\">\r\n\t\t<div class=\"g-preloader type_1\">\r\n\t\t\t<div><\/div>\r\n\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t<div class=\"w-grid-json hidden\" onclick='return {&quot;action&quot;:&quot;us_ajax_grid&quot;,&quot;infinite_scroll&quot;:0,&quot;max_num_pages&quot;:1,&quot;pagination&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;template_vars&quot;:{&quot;columns&quot;:&quot;1&quot;,&quot;exclude_items&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;img_size&quot;:&quot;default&quot;,&quot;ignore_items_size&quot;:0,&quot;items_layout&quot;:&quot;testimonial_1&quot;,&quot;items_offset&quot;:&quot;1&quot;,&quot;load_animation&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;overriding_link&quot;:&quot;%7B%22url%22%3A%22%22%7D&quot;,&quot;post_id&quot;:0,&quot;query_args&quot;:{&quot;post_type&quot;:[&quot;us_testimonial&quot;],&quot;tax_query&quot;:[{&quot;taxonomy&quot;:&quot;us_testimonial_category&quot;,&quot;field&quot;:&quot;slug&quot;,&quot;terms&quot;:[&quot;bierbaum&quot;]}],&quot;post_status&quot;:[&quot;publish&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-success&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-failed&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-schedule&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-pending&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-draft&quot;],&quot;posts_per_page&quot;:&quot;1&quot;},&quot;orderby_query_args&quot;:{&quot;orderby&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;DESC&quot;}},&quot;type&quot;:&quot;grid&quot;,&quot;us_grid_post_type&quot;:&quot;us_testimonial&quot;,&quot;us_grid_ajax_index&quot;:2,&quot;us_grid_filter_query_string&quot;:null,&quot;us_grid_index&quot;:2,&quot;page_args&quot;:[],&quot;lang&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}}'><\/div>\r\n\t<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small color_alternate\" id=\"related\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">In these Episodes, We also Discuss the Transition from SEO to GEO<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_custom\" style=\"height:32px\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div 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GEO Professionals from the Industry<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"w-grid us_grid type_grid layout_blog_10 cols_2 preload_style_spinner overflow_hidden\" id=\"us_grid_3\" style=\"--columns:2;--gap:1.5rem;\"><style>@media (max-width:600px){#us_grid_3{--columns:1!important}}.layout_blog_10 .w-grid-item-h{background:#333;border-radius:var(--site-border-radius);box-shadow:0 0.03rem 0.06rem rgba(0,0,0,0.1),0 0.1rem 0.3rem rgba(0,0,0,0.1);transition-duration:0.3s}.no-touch .layout_blog_10 .w-grid-item-h:hover{box-shadow:0 0.12rem 0.24rem rgba(0,0,0,0.1),0 0.4rem 1.2rem rgba(0,0,0,0.15);z-index:4}.layout_blog_10 .usg_post_image_1{transition-duration:0.3s;transform-origin:50% 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