{"id":31871,"date":"2025-11-10T03:00:33","date_gmt":"2025-11-10T02:00:33","guid":{"rendered":"f6ca3e1c-596d-4801-9942-65aa4e8ef1bc"},"modified":"2025-11-10T15:42:43","modified_gmt":"2025-11-10T14:42:43","slug":"chatgpt-vs-ai-mode-who-provides-the-best-buying-advice","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/en\/chatgpt-vs-ai-mode-who-provides-the-best-buying-advice\/","title":{"rendered":"ChatGPT vs. AI Mode: Who provides the best buying advice?"},"content":{"rendered":"<section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small\" id=\"podcast\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p>&#8220;I&#8217;m looking for a leaf blower.&#8221; A simple sentence that we entered into two AI systems: ChatGPT and Google&#8217;s AI Mode. Central question: Which AI provides the better buying advice?  <\/p>\n<p>In our test, we, Fabian Jaeckert and Benjamin O&#8217;Daniel, took a close look. We recognize major differences: In products, recommendations, links \u2013 and in the entire structure of the AI response. This is crucial for working on AI visibility &#8211; on several levels.  <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>From a <strong>marketing perspective<\/strong>, we need to understand how the systems react &#8211; in order to adapt our strategy accordingly. How does the customer journey proceed? Are there similarities and differences?  <\/li>\n<li>Also from a <strong>market perspective<\/strong>, such an analysis is important: The better a system responds, the more likely it is to prevail \u2013 with corresponding consequences for the market share of the respective systems.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_custom\" style=\"height:32px\"><\/div><div class=\"wpb_text_column inhaltsverzeichnis\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h3>Topics on this Page<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"#airp\">AI Response Page<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#aimode\">The result in AI Mode<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#chatgpt\">The result in ChatGPT<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"#erkenntnisse\">3 insights from the test<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default 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Here we begin our analysis: How do AI systems build their responses? What systematic patterns emerge here? This also results in the Prompt Journey \u2013 i.e. the logical customer journey in AI systems.   <\/p>\n<p>Understanding these patterns is, in our view, crucial for GEO (Generative Engine Optimization) or AEO (Answer Engine Optimization). Both in terms of the fundamental change &#8211; and the differences in the language models.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"w-btn-wrapper align_center\"><a class=\"w-btn us-btn-style_1\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/en\/hub\/geo-and-llmo\/\"><span class=\"w-btn-label\">GEO &amp; LLMO: The Overview<\/span><\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-image style_shadow-1 align_left\"><a ref=\"magnificPopup\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-AI-Mode.png\" aria-label=\"AI Mode vs. ChatGPT Shopping Products\" class=\"w-image-h\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1140\" height=\"1140\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-AI-Mode.png\" class=\"attachment-large size-large\" alt=\"AI Mode vs. ChatGPT Shopping Products\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-AI-Mode.png 1485w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-AI-Mode-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-AI-Mode-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-AI-Mode-1200x1200.png 1200w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-AI-Mode-800x800.png 800w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-AI-Mode-600x600.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1140px) 100vw, 1140px\" \/><\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small\" id=\"aimode\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">The AI Mode: Fast, Clean \u2013 but without a Click Option<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p>The AI Mode delivers really fast. The fan-out &#8211; i.e. the querying of websites for information &#8211; runs in fractions of a second. However: No follow-up questions are asked.  <\/p>\n<p>Instead, it quickly focuses on the products, which are sorted according to the categories battery, gasoline and electric. Several devices are briefly presented. This seems efficient at first glance. But it is not real advice, but rather seems like a structured summary.   <\/p>\n<p>There is no product integration, no prices, no real possibility to visit a shop. The conversation ends where it should actually begin. <\/p>\n<p>It is also interesting how the AI Mode is grounded: It draws on sources, shows them as tiles \u2013 but without a real transition into the buying process. No direct linking from the AI Mode to manufacturer pages or retailers. Often, English-language websites are also displayed.  <\/p>\n<p>You can tell: The system still thinks like a search engine. It delivers a lot of text \u2013 but only a rudimentary journey.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-image style_shadow-1 align_none\"><a ref=\"magnificPopup\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/AIMode-Shopping.png\" aria-label=\"AI Mode Shopping Beispiel\" class=\"w-image-h\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1080\" height=\"1080\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/AIMode-Shopping.png\" class=\"attachment-large size-large\" alt=\"AI Mode Shopping Beispiel\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/AIMode-Shopping.png 1080w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/AIMode-Shopping-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/AIMode-Shopping-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/AIMode-Shopping-800x800.png 800w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/AIMode-Shopping-600x600.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"w-btn-wrapper align_center\"><a class=\"w-btn us-btn-style_1\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/en\/seo-academy\/\"><span class=\"w-btn-label\">Our GEO Academy<\/span><\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small color_alternate\" id=\"chatgpt\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">ChatGPT: Thinks Longer, Asks Questions, Leads to Purchase<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p>ChatGPT reacts completely differently. After the first prompt, the counter-question comes immediately:<br \/>\nHow big is the garden? Battery or gasoline? Budget? The system wants to understand before it recommends. And that&#8217;s exactly what changes the dynamic.     <\/p>\n<p>ChatGPT builds real buying advice. It names criteria such as volume, ergonomics, performance, neighborhood compatibility \u2013 and links them to specific products. Often the Deep Thinking Mode is activated, some results take one to two minutes.  <\/p>\n<p>At the same time, the products are integrated much deeper through a separate product carousel. Anyone who clicks on a product receives price comparisons, ratings, links to shops. An <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/geo-fuer-onlineshops\/\">Instant Check-out<\/a> will follow soon.  <\/p>\n<p>At the end there is an offer: \u201cShould I put together two set variants for you?\u201d You can see: ChatGPT thinks in steps \u2013 not just in AI summaries. Each answer is the next part of the journey. And that&#8217;s exactly what makes the difference. It is a &#8220;real&#8221; consultation.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-image style_shadow-1 align_none\"><a ref=\"magnificPopup\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Shopping.png\" aria-label=\"ChatGPT Shopping Example\" class=\"w-image-h\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1080\" height=\"1080\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Shopping.png\" class=\"attachment-large size-large\" alt=\"ChatGPT Shopping Example\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Shopping.png 1080w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Shopping-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Shopping-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Shopping-800x800.png 800w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/ChatGPT-Shopping-600x600.png 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"w-btn-wrapper align_center\"><a class=\"w-btn us-btn-style_1\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/en\/seo-academy\/\"><span class=\"w-btn-label\">Our GEO Academy<\/span><\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small color_primary\" id=\"onlinetraining\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-8 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h2>Free GEO Online Training<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Current Developments in AI Visibility<\/li>\n<li>From SEO to GEO<\/li>\n<li>How to Optimize for AI Systems<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_small\"><\/div><div class=\"w-btn-wrapper align_left\"><a class=\"w-btn us-btn-style_5\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/us02web.zoom.us\/webinar\/register\/6417580269065\/WN_-huWVuUyQWGuya0yM5GKUQ\" rel=\"noopener\"><span class=\"w-btn-label\">Select Appointment Now<\/span><\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-4 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-image align_none\"><a href=\"https:\/\/us02web.zoom.us\/webinar\/register\/6417580269065\/WN_-huWVuUyQWGuya0yM5GKUQ\" aria-label=\"GEO Online Training Header (1001 x 667 px)\" class=\"w-image-h\" 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\/><\/a><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small\" id=\"erkenntnisse\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Our 3 Insights after the Current Test<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-4 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-iconbox iconpos_top style_default color_primary align_center\"><div class=\"w-iconbox-icon\" style=\"font-size:2rem;\"><i class=\"fas fa-lightbulb-on\"><\/i><\/div><div class=\"w-iconbox-meta\"><h4 class=\"w-iconbox-title\">Three Prompts to the Decision<\/h4><div class=\"w-iconbox-text\"><p style=\"text-align: left;\">After only three prompts, we are at concrete products with prices and reviews. This is a complete purchase path \u2013 without search results, without banners, without click chains. Anyone who observes this sees: AI systems are increasingly taking on the role of personal product advisors.  <\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-4 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-iconbox iconpos_top style_default color_primary align_center\"><div class=\"w-iconbox-icon\" style=\"font-size:2rem;\"><i class=\"fas fa-lightbulb-on\"><\/i><\/div><div class=\"w-iconbox-meta\"><h4 class=\"w-iconbox-title\">ChatGPT Advises more Dynamically, more Complexly<\/h4><div class=\"w-iconbox-text\"><p style=\"text-align: left;\">Both AIs want to advise. But while the AI Mode condenses content, ChatGPT wants to understand more. Google delivers compressed information, ChatGPT builds more of an open dialogue that takes many aspects into account. The result: two different customer journeys \u2013 one tending to be static, the other more dynamic, interactive.   <\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-4 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-iconbox iconpos_top style_default color_primary align_center\"><div class=\"w-iconbox-icon\" style=\"font-size:2rem;\"><i class=\"fas fa-lightbulb-on\"><\/i><\/div><div class=\"w-iconbox-meta\"><h4 class=\"w-iconbox-title\">The AI Mode is Still the \u201cStepchild\u201d<\/h4><div class=\"w-iconbox-text\"><p style=\"text-align: left;\">The AI Mode hardly shows any product links or price comparisons \u2013 and thus gives away the greatest advantage that Google actually has: its database. It seems as if Google is deliberately holding back the e-commerce part. Has Google forgotten Google Shopping? For online shops, this means: Visibility in Google \u2260 Visibility in the AI.   <\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small color_alternate\" id=\"newsletter\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-separator size_custom\" style=\"height:32px\"><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Deepen your GEO Knowledge: Every Monday via Email<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_custom\" 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center;\">Our Conversations with SEO and GEO Professionals<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"w-grid us_grid type_grid layout_blog_10 cols_2 overflow_hidden preload_style_spinner\" id=\"us_grid_1\" style=\"--columns:2;--gap:1.5rem;\"><style>@media (max-width:600px){#us_grid_1{--columns:1!important}}.layout_blog_10 .w-grid-item-h{background:#333;border-radius:var(--site-border-radius);box-shadow:0 0.03rem 0.06rem rgba(0,0,0,0.1),0 0.1rem 0.3rem rgba(0,0,0,0.1);transition-duration:0.3s}.no-touch .layout_blog_10 .w-grid-item-h:hover{box-shadow:0 0.12rem 0.24rem rgba(0,0,0,0.1),0 0.4rem 1.2rem rgba(0,0,0,0.15);z-index:4}.layout_blog_10 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Interview with Elena Geiger\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1080\" height=\"1080\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Elena-Geiger-SEO-Content-Strategin.png\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-post-image\" alt=\"Elena Geiger SEO Content Strategin\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Elena-Geiger-SEO-Content-Strategin.png 1080w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Elena-Geiger-SEO-Content-Strategin-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Elena-Geiger-SEO-Content-Strategin-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Elena-Geiger-SEO-Content-Strategin-800x800.png 800w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/Elena-Geiger-SEO-Content-Strategin-600x600.png 600w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1080px) 100vw, 1080px\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"w-vwrapper usg_vwrapper_1 align_none valign_top\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_taxonomy usg_post_taxonomy_1 style_badge color_link_inherit\"><a class=\"w-btn us-btn-style_badge term-4805 term-magazine\" href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/en\/category\/magazine\/\"><span class=\"w-btn-label\">Magazine<\/span><\/a><\/div><h2 class=\"w-post-elm post_title usg_post_title_1 has_text_color entry-title color_link_inherit\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/en\/what-future-does-seo-content-have-interview-with-elena-geiger\/\">What Future Does SEO Content Have? Interview with Elena Geiger<\/a><\/h2><\/div>\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<\/article>\r\n<\/div>\t<div class=\"w-grid-preloader\">\r\n\t\t<div class=\"g-preloader type_1\">\r\n\t\t\t<div><\/div>\r\n\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t<div class=\"w-grid-json hidden\" onclick='return {&quot;action&quot;:&quot;us_ajax_grid&quot;,&quot;infinite_scroll&quot;:0,&quot;max_num_pages&quot;:1,&quot;pagination&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;template_vars&quot;:{&quot;columns&quot;:&quot;2&quot;,&quot;exclude_items&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;img_size&quot;:&quot;default&quot;,&quot;ignore_items_size&quot;:0,&quot;items_layout&quot;:&quot;blog_10&quot;,&quot;items_offset&quot;:&quot;1&quot;,&quot;load_animation&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;overriding_link&quot;:&quot;%7B%22url%22%3A%22%22%7D&quot;,&quot;post_id&quot;:0,&quot;query_args&quot;:{&quot;ignore_sticky_posts&quot;:1,&quot;post_type&quot;:&quot;any&quot;,&quot;post__in&quot;:[&quot;29953&quot;,&quot;30389&quot;,&quot;29871&quot;,&quot;31586&quot;],&quot;posts_per_page&quot;:&quot;4&quot;},&quot;orderby_query_args&quot;:{&quot;orderby&quot;:&quot;RAND(735781537)&quot;},&quot;type&quot;:&quot;grid&quot;,&quot;us_grid_post_type&quot;:&quot;ids&quot;,&quot;us_grid_ajax_index&quot;:2,&quot;us_grid_filter_query_string&quot;:null,&quot;us_grid_index&quot;:2,&quot;page_args&quot;:[],&quot;lang&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}}'><\/div>\r\n\t<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small\" id=\"beratung\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">We Advise Marketing Managers on SEO &amp; GEO<\/h2>\n<\/div><\/div><div class=\"w-separator size_medium\"><\/div><div class=\"g-cols wpb_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-grid us_grid type_grid layout_testimonial_1 cols_1 preload_style_spinner\" id=\"us_grid_3\" style=\"--columns:1;--gap:1.5rem;\" data-filterable=\"true\"><style>.layout_testimonial_1 .w-grid-item-h{}.layout_testimonial_1 .usg_vwrapper_1{transition-duration:0.3s;transform-origin:50% 50%;transform:scale(1) translate(0%,0%)}.layout_testimonial_1 .w-grid-item-h:focus-within .usg_vwrapper_1,.layout_testimonial_1 .w-grid-item-h:hover .usg_vwrapper_1{transform:scale(1) translate(0%,0%);opacity:1;border-color:var(--color-content-primary)!important}.layout_testimonial_1 .usg_vwrapper_1{border-radius:var(--site-border-radius)!important;padding:2rem!important;border:2px solid var(--color-content-border)!important}.layout_testimonial_1 .usg_hwrapper_1{margin-bottom:1rem!important}.layout_testimonial_1 .usg_post_image_1{width:4rem!important;margin-left:0!important;margin-right:1rem!important}.layout_testimonial_1 .usg_post_custom_field_1{font-weight:700!important;line-height:1.5!important;margin-bottom:0!important}.layout_testimonial_1 .usg_post_custom_field_2{color:var(--color-content-faded)!important;font-size:0.9rem!important;line-height:1.5!important}.layout_testimonial_1 .usg_post_custom_field_3{color:var(--color-content-primary)!important}<\/style><div class=\"w-grid-list\">\t<article class=\"w-grid-item size_1x1 post-30829 us_testimonial type-us_testimonial status-publish has-post-thumbnail hentry us_testimonial_category-clients us_testimonial_category-dkb\" data-id=\"30829\">\r\n\t\t<div class=\"w-grid-item-h\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"w-vwrapper usg_vwrapper_1 align_none valign_top\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_content usg_post_content_1\"><p>For anyone seeking an SEO sparring partner or comprehensive SEO consulting, Fabian and Benjamin are the perfect choice. As an in-house SEO expert, I sought competent SEO support and found it with them. During a very pleasant introductory meeting, we jointly developed an approach to establish SEO among the individual stakeholders and thereby gain more internal visibility for the subject. Based on this initial discussion and a joint kick-off with the stakeholders, they developed a sound SEO and content strategy for a product area. Since then, they have both supported me as sparring partners during implementation.<\/p>\n<p>The collaboration with Fabian and Benjamin is a great pleasure for me and all project participants, as they are masters of their craft and bring immense passion for SEO. This combination is infectious and motivates everyone to achieve peak performance.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"w-hwrapper usg_hwrapper_1 align_none valign_middle\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_image usg_post_image_1 as_circle has_width stretched\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dkb.de\/\" aria-label=\"Regina Biskop, Deutsche Kreditbank AG\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3-800x800.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/regina-b-3.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><\/div><div class=\"w-vwrapper usg_vwrapper_2 align_none valign_top\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_custom_field usg_post_custom_field_1 type_text us_testimonial_author\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dkb.de\/\" rel=\"noopener\"><span class=\"w-post-elm-value\">Regina Biskop<\/span><\/a><\/div><div class=\"w-post-elm post_custom_field usg_post_custom_field_2 has_text_color type_text us_testimonial_role color_link_inherit\"><span class=\"w-post-elm-value\">Search Engine Optimization Expert, Deutsche Kreditbank AG<\/span><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<\/article>\r\n<\/div>\t<div class=\"w-grid-preloader\">\r\n\t\t<div class=\"g-preloader type_1\">\r\n\t\t\t<div><\/div>\r\n\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t<div class=\"w-grid-json hidden\" onclick='return {&quot;action&quot;:&quot;us_ajax_grid&quot;,&quot;infinite_scroll&quot;:0,&quot;max_num_pages&quot;:1,&quot;pagination&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;template_vars&quot;:{&quot;columns&quot;:&quot;1&quot;,&quot;exclude_items&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;img_size&quot;:&quot;default&quot;,&quot;ignore_items_size&quot;:0,&quot;items_layout&quot;:&quot;testimonial_1&quot;,&quot;items_offset&quot;:&quot;1&quot;,&quot;load_animation&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;overriding_link&quot;:&quot;%7B%22url%22%3A%22%22%7D&quot;,&quot;post_id&quot;:0,&quot;query_args&quot;:{&quot;post_type&quot;:[&quot;us_testimonial&quot;],&quot;tax_query&quot;:[{&quot;taxonomy&quot;:&quot;us_testimonial_category&quot;,&quot;field&quot;:&quot;slug&quot;,&quot;terms&quot;:[&quot;dkb&quot;]}],&quot;post_status&quot;:[&quot;publish&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-success&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-failed&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-schedule&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-pending&quot;,&quot;tribe-ea-draft&quot;],&quot;posts_per_page&quot;:&quot;1&quot;},&quot;orderby_query_args&quot;:{&quot;orderby&quot;:{&quot;date&quot;:&quot;DESC&quot;}},&quot;type&quot;:&quot;grid&quot;,&quot;us_grid_post_type&quot;:&quot;us_testimonial&quot;,&quot;us_grid_ajax_index&quot;:3,&quot;us_grid_filter_query_string&quot;:null,&quot;us_grid_index&quot;:3,&quot;page_args&quot;:[],&quot;lang&quot;:&quot;en&quot;}}'><\/div>\r\n\t<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><div class=\"vc_col-sm-6 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"w-grid us_grid type_grid layout_testimonial_1 cols_1 preload_style_spinner\" id=\"us_grid_4\" style=\"--columns:1;--gap:1.5rem;\" data-filterable=\"true\"><div class=\"w-grid-list\">\t<article class=\"w-grid-item size_1x1 post-30806 us_testimonial type-us_testimonial status-publish has-post-thumbnail hentry us_testimonial_category-bierbaum us_testimonial_category-clients\" data-id=\"30806\">\r\n\t\t<div class=\"w-grid-item-h\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"w-vwrapper usg_vwrapper_1 align_none valign_top\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_content usg_post_content_1\"><section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p>I look back with great satisfaction on the SEO project that we carried out with Benjamin and Fabian. Firstly, the collaboration was on a very pleasant, goal-oriented level. Secondly, the consultation was structured in such a way that we could immediately start with the implementation. We received very concrete optimization suggestions that were tailored to our internal capacities and therefore realistically implementable. Even though only a few months have passed, we can already see the first results of our work in the Google rankings. Traffic for our relevant keywords is steadily increasing, and we still have enough concrete work packages from Benjamin in the pipeline to boost our site. Furthermore, through the consultation, we have acquired so much internal SEO know-how that we can now optimize our site independently. And most importantly: Visitor numbers have doubled \u2013 with correspondingly positive effects on sales.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section>\n<\/div><div class=\"w-hwrapper usg_hwrapper_1 align_none valign_middle\"><div class=\"w-post-elm post_image usg_post_image_1 as_circle has_width stretched\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.bp-online.com\/de-de\/\" aria-label=\"Mark Mauderer, Digital Marketing Manager, Bierbaum Proenen\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" src=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/mark_m-150x150.jpg\" class=\"attachment-thumbnail size-thumbnail wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/mark_m-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/mark_m-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.jaeckert-odaniel.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/mark_m-600x600.jpg 600w, 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